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SALVATION,
BAPTISM, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT
By
Tim Madorma
updated
to website on 2 Mar 05
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OPENING COMMENTS.
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HOW IS A PERSON SAVED?.
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2.1
The Most Important Issue
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WHAT IS THE PURPOSE AND SIGNIFICANCE OF BAPTISM?.
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3.1
Relevant Sections of Scripture.
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3.1.1
Is Baptism a work?
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3.1.1.1
What About Confession?
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3.1.2
Conclusions concerning baptism in the New Testament
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3.1.2.1
What About the Thief on the Cross?
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THE HOLY SPIRIT FORETOLD..
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4.1
Relevant Sections of Scripture.
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THE COMING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.
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5.1
Relevant Sections of Scripture.
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MUST A PERSON HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT TO BE SAVED?.
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6.1
Relevant Sections of Scripture.
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6.2
Conclusions
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IS TONGUES OR PROPHECY THE ONLY EVIDENCE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT?.
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7.1
Relevant Sections of Scripture.
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DO ALL BAPTIZED BELIEVERS HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT?.
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8.1
Scripture References.
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8.2
ACTS 8:14-17 – A SEEMINGLY TOUGH SCRIPTURE
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8.2.1
Some Interesting Points
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8.2.2
Commentary on Acts 8:14-17
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WHAT ARE THE EVIDENCES OF THE HOLY SPIRIT?.
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WHAT IS THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT?
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10.1
The Story Of Cornelius.
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10.1.1
Why did Cornelius and Friends receive the Holy Spirit without Water
Baptism?
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10.1.2
Why did Cornelius and Friends have to be baptized in Water after the Holy
Spirit Fell on them?
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10.2
Is the Baptism of the Holy Spirit For Today?
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10.2.1
Why the Controversy?
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10.2.2
Some Personal Observations
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WHEN IS A PERSON READY TO BE BAPTIZED?.
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11.1
What about believers who have not been baptized?.
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WHAT ABOUT INFANT BAPTISM?.
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12.1
Household Baptism
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12.2
Let the Children come to Me.
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For Further Consideration.
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13.1
Acts 19:1-6
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13.1.1
Some Notes
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13.1.2
Some Questions and Observations
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13.1.3
Conclusions concerning Act 19:1-6
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Before
jumping into the details concerning salvation, baptism, and the Holy Spirit I
want to start by saying that I believe that God’s overall goal is for each one
of us to have a vital relationship with Him. I don’t believe that there is a
step-by-step process that everyone has to follow to a tee in order accomplish
the goal. I surely don’t want to “put God in a box”, limiting the way in
which He may choose to work. There are some fine details of God’s plan for man
that I don’t understand, but I do believe that God does make clear in the
Bible, the things that we do need to be in relationship with Him. God does not
always explain why He calls us to specific actions, but He always blesses those
that submit their will to His. In this paper I am presenting what I believe to
be correct after much prayer and study of the Bible. I am however very open to
receiving further input and constructive criticism from other believers. Indeed,
some of the premises that I make in the paper may be flawed. At this time we may
not be able know all of the answers to the questions that are raised in this
paper (which I believe is why the Christian community has some variances among
“non-essential” beliefs). In 1Co 13:9-10, Paul writes: “For
we know in part, and we prophesy in part; but when the perfect thing comes, then
that which is in part will be caused to
cease.”
It occurs to me that often times when the question of
salvation comes up, many people either take the “least common denominator
approach” whereby they take a standalone verse such as John 3:16 and conclude
that if at some point in time a person believes in Jesus (regardless of anything
else), then that person is eternally secure. This camp sometimes thinks anything
other than belief is a work and therefore cannot be a part of salvation. On the
other hand some take the “cover all your bases” approach whereby all known
steps must be taken exactly as detailed in all instances of the Bible – only
then is a person considered saved. This approach seems like it is works based.
Then there are those who take the approach that faith in Jesus includes several
actions and manifestations that are integral parts of that faith and come as a
consequence of truly believing on Him. This is the approach that I take.
I want to make it clear that I strongly believe the most
important issue related to receiving salvation is the condition of the
person’s heart. In the Bible, the term mind refers to what you
think and the term heart refers to your attitude and what you care about. God is
concerned much more about your heart
than your mind. He is much more interested in your caring about the right
things and having the right attitude than your having the right knowledge.
Consider that the Bible only mentions the term mind
69 times while the term heart
is mentioned 932 times! Also, when the two terms are mentioned together, heart
always precedes mind (except for one case where the terms are used different
contexts). I mention this to make sure that someone does not believe that he or
she has to know everything about the Bible, have perfect faith without doubts,
or get it all together before he or she can be saved. If his or her heart is
right (he or she comes in to the Lord acknowledging his or her sin in humility
with a desire to be transformed by the Living Savior), then everything else
related to salvation is in the category of details. These details are very
important since God’s blessings are attached to them, but first the heart must
be right. If the heart is right, the details will be openly embraced. In this
paper I endeavor to present the details.
Throughout the New Testament, being saved is associated
with belief or faith in Jesus Christ. The book of James points out that true
faith is different than a “said” faith (Jam 2:14). The New Testament
characterizes a person of true faith by: 1) a person that repents of their past
ways, confesses Jesus as savior and Lord, is baptized, grows spiritually
(produces fruit), and performs works as a result of their faith. I want to make
it clear that I am not saying that salvation is obtained through faith +
repentance + confession + baptism + works + spiritual growth. Rather I am saying
that true faith will have these components as a consequence or outgrowth of that
faith.
The following is a list of some supporting verses (there
are many more).
FAITH
Eph 2:8-9
For by grace you are saved, through faith, and this not of yourselves; it
is the
gift
of God; not of works, that not
anyone should boast;
BAPTISM
Mat
28:19 Go, and make
disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the
Son and of the Holy Spirit
REPENTANCE
Act 17:30
Truly, then, God overlooking the times of ignorance, now strictly commands
all
men everywhere to repent
CONFESSION
Rom
10:9-10 Because if you
confess the Lord Jesus with your mouth,
and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the
dead, you will be saved. For with the
heart one believes unto righteousness,
and with the mouth one
confesses unto salvation.
WORKS
Jam
2:14-17 My brothers,
what is the gain if anyone says he has
faith, but he does not have works? Is the faith able to save him? But if a
brother or a sister is naked and may be lacking in daily food, and any one of
you say to them, Go in peace, be warmed and filled, but does not give them the
things the body needs, what gain is it?
So also faith, if it does not have works, is dead being by itself.
SPIRITUAL
GROWTH
Mat 7:19
Every tree not producing good fruit is cut down and is thrown into fire.
Mat 13:23
But that sown on the good ground is this: the one
hearing the Word, and
understanding
it, who indeed bears and yields fruit, one truly a hundredfold, and one
sixty, and one thirty.
What is baptism? Is it the first act of obedience? Is it a
Christian ritual that a person participates in when they wish to enter the
church? Let’s see what the Bible says...
Ac
2:38-41 And Peter said to them, repent and be baptized, each of you on the name
of Jesus Christ to remission of sins. And you will receive the gift of the
Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all
those afar off, as many as the Lord our God shall call. And with many other words he earnestly testified
and exhorted, saying, be saved from this perverse generation. Then truly the
ones gladly welcoming His Word were
baptized. And about three thousand souls were added that day.
Note:
This is an instance where baptism is coupled with belief and salvation.
1Pe 3:21 This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you -
not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good
conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ
Tit 3:5 not by works of righteousness, which we did
ourselves, but according to his mercy, he saved us, through the washing of
regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit, whom He poured out on us richly
through Jesus Christ, our Savior;
Rom
6:4-5 We were buried therefore
with him through baptism to death, that just like Christ was raised from the
dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of
life. For if we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we
will also be part of his resurrection;
Ga 3:26-29 For you are all children of God, through faith
in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on
Christ... If you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed and heirs according
to promise.
Note: This is another instance where baptism is assumed for
those who have faith.
Ac 16:30-33 and brought them out and said, "Sirs, what
must I do to be saved?" They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ,
and you will be saved, you and your household." They spoke the word of the
Lord to him, and to all who were in his house. He took them the same hour of the
night, and washed their stripes, and was immediately baptized, he and his
entire household.
Many people in the Christian community have a rigid
systematic theology which follows specific logical progressions to come to their
theological conclusions. And within this theology is the core New Testament
principal that we are saved only by grace, through faith.
Eph 2:8-9
For by grace you are saved, through faith, and this not of yourselves; it
is the
gift
of God; not of works, that not
anyone should boast;
I think every Christian can agree that it is entirely
God’s grace that saves us through faith in Him. But in an effort to make sure
that nobody can claim that their effort has any part of the salvation
experience, the systematic theologians want a clear delineation between a work
and faith. For them, anything that is outside of the thought process is deemed a
work and cannot therefore be part of salvation. Here, they are following the
logical progression:
a)
A person is saved by grace, through faith (not by works).
b)
Anything action that is outside of the thought process is considered a
work.
c)
Baptism is an action that is outside of the thought process and is
therefore a work.
d)
Therefore baptism cannot be part of the salvation experience.
Sounds logical, but there is one huge problem: it directly
violates many verses of scripture (like the ones listed in the last subsection).
Perhaps premise b) above is flawed.
So, is baptism a work? I think the answer to this important
question is that it depends on the person’s heart that is being baptized.
Surely there are many who cling to baptism as something that they did to earn
salvation. This totally violates the teaching of Eph 2:8-9. On the other hand if
someone is gladly baptized in a spirit of humility and gratitude (as they were
in every instance mentioned in the New Testament), they are not doing it as a
work to gain salvation, but as a willful submission as part of their faith
proclamation.
The more important question is: Did God mean for baptism to
be a work? I think not. If He did, then he would not have been so clear to
include it in the scriptures as part of the salvation experience and at the same
time say we are saved by grace through faith alone. Please consider the verses
listed in the previous subsection and see if you can come to any other
conclusion.
Many who believe baptism to be a work or “the first act
of obedience after salvation” would not think of omitting verbal confession as
an integral part of salvation. But both confession and baptism are outside of
the thought process. So why do they hold to confession as part of the salvation
experience and consider baptism to be a work that is outside of the salvation
experience? Just something to think about J
From the day of Pentecost, baptism is an integral part of
coming to faith in Jesus Christ. It was commanded by Jesus himself. In the New
Testament, after Pentecost, being baptized immediately followed a person belief.
Baptism is so intertwined with belief in the New Testament it is as if the
authors assume it a given that those who believe will be baptized. Acts 2:41
states: “the ones gladly welcoming his word were baptized”.
The thief on the cross (and the woman caught in adultery)
both received salvation from the Lord. Consider a couple of points: 1) these
events took place before the resurrection (at a time when Christian baptism was
not yet taking place) and 2) if these events occurred after the resurrection and
they were able, their response to the Lord shows that these people would most
certainly have welcomed the opportunity to be baptized.
There may be cases where it is physically impossible or the
person is uninformed and I believe God will overlook these circumstances.
However for the rest of us, baptism is “*the* answer of a good
conscience toward God". I believe that real faith embraces it. In addition
to being an outward expression of a true inward change (Rom 6:4-5), Acts 2:38-39
says it is also the time at which a person receives the gift of the Holy Spirit
and forgiveness of sins.
Joh 7:39 But He said this concerning the Spirit, whom the
ones believing into Him were about to receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet
given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.
Joh 14:16 And I will petition the Father, and He will give
you another Comforter, that He may remain with you to the age, the Spirit of
Truth, whom the world cannot receive because it does not see Him nor know Him.
But you know Him, for He abides with you and shall be in you.
Act 1:8 but you will receive power, the Holy Spirit coming
upon you, and you will be witnesses of Me both in Jerusalem, and in all
Judea, and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.
[Note
that Mark 16:9-20 is not included here even though it is directly related. There
are arguments for and against its authenticity. Since the authenticity of these
verses is debatable, I have decided to not include them here.]
Joh 20:20-22 And saying this, He showed them His hands and
side. Then seeing the Lord, the disciples rejoiced. Then Jesus said to them
again, Peace to you. As the Father has sent Me, I also send you. And saying
this, He breathed on them and said to them, Receive the Holy Spirit.
-- Commentary on John 20:20-22 --
Now, this was the first time that Jesus saw the disciples
after he had risen from the dead. At this point, they were hiding for fear of
the Jews. After Jesus came to them, he breathed on them and gave them the power
to remit or hold a person’s sins. Then a little later (probably a few days) he
told Peter to feed his sheep. So, they went from hiding to doing two things that
they certainly were not able to do before receiving the Holy Spirit. Then at
Pentecost, the Holy Spirit came in power
and gave them outwardly miraculous gifts in a moment.
Act
2:2-4 And suddenly a
sound came out of the heaven, as being borne along by a violent wind! And it
filled all the house where they were sitting. And tongues as of fire appeared to
them, being distributed, and it sat on each one of them. And they were all
filled of the Holy Spirit, and began to speak in other languages, as the Spirit
gave ability to them to speak.
Rom 8:9 But you are not in
flesh, but in Spirit, since the
Spirit of God dwells in you. But
of
anyone has not the Spirit of Christ, this
one is not His.
Joh 3:5
Jesus answered, truly, truly, I say to you, if one is not generated out of water
and
Spirit, he is not able to enter into the kingdom of God.
The previous two verses seem to indicate that a person
*must* have the indwelling Holy Spirit to be considered saved.
Background: Some “charismatic” churches believe that
the only way to know that a person has the indwelling Holy Spirit is if that
person has the gift of tongues or prophecy.
1Co
12:29-30 Are all
apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? are all workers
of miracles? Have all gifts of healings? Do all speak with tongues?
Do all interpret?
Comment: Again this is a verse that shows that every
believer doesn’t necessarily have the gift of tongues or prophecy.
1Co 12:4-13 Now there are various kinds of gifts, but the
same Spirit. There are various kinds of service, and the same Lord. There are
various kinds of workings, but the same God, who works all things in all. But to
each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the profit of all. For to
one is given through the Spirit the word of wisdom, and to another the word of
knowledge, according to the same Spirit; to another faith, by the same Spirit;
and to another gifts of healings, by the same Spirit; and to another workings of
miracles; and to another prophecy; and to another discerning of spirits; to
another different kinds of languages; and to another the interpretation of
languages. But the one and the same Spirit works all of these, distributing to
each one separately as he desires. For as the body is one, and has many members,
and all the members of the body, being many, are one body; so also is Christ.
For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks,
whether bond or free; and were all given to drink into one Spirit.
In addition to these and other such verses, the Bible tells
us of many instances when people are "filled" with the Holy Spirit and
don't prophecy or speak in tongues at the time.
The following is a list of verses that support the notion
that a person receives the Holy Spirit whenever they are baptized in the name of
Jesus Christ.
Ac 2:38-39 And Peter said to them, Repent and be baptized,
each of you on the name of Jesus Christ to remission of sins. And you will
receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your
children, and to all those afar off, as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Note
that in Act 10:43 it says that “To this One
all the Prophets witness, so that through
His name everyone believing into Him will
receive remission of sins.
Note
about Act 2:38-39 and 10:43: In 2:38 remission
of sins is related to repentance and baptism while in 10:43 it is related to
believing. ” This is another example of how closely knit belief, repentance
and baptism are. They all have different meanings, but are all assumed to be
integral parts to the salvation experience (remission of sins to be specific).
1Co
12:13 For also we all
were baptized by one Spirit into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether
slaves or free, even all were given to drink into one Spirit.
Eph
1:13-14 in whom also
you, hearing the Word of Truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also
believing you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is an earnest of
our inheritance, to the redemption of the
purchased possession, to the praise of
His glory.
Act
8:14-17 And the
apostles in Jerusalem hearing that Samaria had received the Word of God, they
sent Peter and John to them, who going down prayed concerning them so that they
may receive the Holy Spirit. For He had
not yet fallen on any one of them, but they were only being baptized in the name
of the Lord Jesus. Then they laid hands on them, and they received the
Holy Spirit.
First consider the phrase “for He had not yet fallen on any one of them,
but they were only being baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.”
- From
other verses, fallen refers to the Holy Spirit coming with power
(with outward miraculous signs). It is probable that this differentiates the
term receive the Holy Spirit in this verse from receive the gift
of the Holy Spirit in Acts 2:38-39.
- The
phrase: not yet
infers that it was expected that the Holy Spirit would fall on them at some
point in time later.
- The
phrase: “they were only being baptized in the name of the Lord
Jesus” seems to indicate that that the Holy Spirit coming in power
did not normally accompany water baptism in the name of Jesus.
- If
someone was to assume that the receiving of the gift of the Holy Spirit in
Acts 2:38-39 is the same as the receiving of the Holy Spirit here, then
Peter may not have meant that they would receive the Holy Spirit as soon as
they were baptized, but rather at or some point after baptism. This view
however is problematic – it seems to contradict Eph
1:13-14.
- There
is not an instance in scripture that the Holy Spirit comes in power upon
someone that is being baptized in water (of course the Holy Spirit did
descend on Jesus at his baptism). Jesus’ baptism however was to fulfill
all righteousness under Law.
- The
Bible does not tell us that Peter, John, or Philip was surprised that the
baptized believers did not receive the Holy Spirit in power. It only says
that when they came down, they prayed for them that they might receive Him.
It is not known if before the Apostles came down, whether
or not they knew that the Holy Spirit had not fallen on the Samaritans. It may
be inferred that they assumed that the Samaritans did not yet have the Holy
Spirit fall on them because of the phrase “only
being baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus”.
It is known however that for some reason the Apostles held the power to
transfer the outwardly miraculous gifts of the Holy Spirit while Philip was not
able to do so. This does not mean that the outwardly miraculous gifts of the
Holy Spirit were only given at the hands of the Apostles as some say. There are
verses in scripture in which the powerful manifestations of the Holy Spirit are
bestowed on believers under different circumstances than the laying on of the
Apostle’s hands. In Acts 10:44 it happened when Peter was speaking to a crowd.
In Acts 2, the Holy Spirit also came most likely when the believer’s were in
prayer and supplication. Considering all things, I believe that the Samaritans
had the gift of the Holy Spirit that comes with baptism in the name of Jesus and
that Peter and John laid hands on the Samaritans to transfer Holy Spirit “in
power”.
1Co 12:4-13 Now there are various kinds of gifts, but the
same Spirit. There are various kinds of service, and the same Lord. There are
various kinds of workings, but the same God, who works all things in all. But to
each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the profit of all. For to
one is given through the Spirit the word of wisdom, and to another the word of
knowledge, according to the same Spirit; to another faith, by the same Spirit;
and to another gifts of healings, by the same Spirit; and to another workings of
miracles; and to another prophecy; and to another discerning of spirits; to
another different kinds of languages; and to another the interpretation of
languages. But the one and the same Spirit works all of these, distributing to
each one separately as He desires. For as the body is one, and has many members,
and all the members of the body, being many, are one body; so also is Christ.
For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks,
whether bond or free; and were all given to drink into one Spirit.
Ga 5:22-24 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace,
patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.
Against such things there is no law. Those who belong to Christ have crucified
the flesh with its passions and lusts.
Eph 5:9 for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and
righteousness and truth,
Rom 8:16
The Spirit Himself witnesses with our spirit that we are children of God.
1Jo 2:5 But whoever keeps His Word, truly in this one the
love of God has been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him.
1Jo 3:24 And the one keeping His commandments abides in
Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom
He gave to us.
1Jo 4:15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God,
God abides in him, and he in God.
1Jo 5:1 Everyone believing that Jesus is the Christ has
been generated from God.
Joh 14:26
but the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name,
He shall teach you all things and shall remind you of
all things that I said to you
I believe "the baptism of the Holy Spirit" is a
term that is used when the Holy Spirit comes on someone in power. The
term “baptism of the Holy Spirit” is a confusing one since the New Testament
says that all baptized believers have the Holy Spirit (as detailed in section
8
). I only use this terminology because it is the exact terminology that Peter
used in Acts11:15-16. Hence I think that the “baptism of the Holy Spirit” is
separate from water baptism in the name of Jesus, although water baptism is into the Holy Spirit for regeneration.
Consider the following Bible story where the Holy Spirit was "poured"
or "fell" on people - they still had to follow through with water
baptism.
Act
10:44-47 As Peter was
yet speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell on all those hearing the Word.
And the faithful of the circumcision were
amazed, as many as came with Peter, because the gift of the Holy Spirit was
poured out on the nations also. For they heard them speaking in languages and
magnifying God. Then Peter answered, Can anyone forbid the water that these not
be baptized, who the Holy Spirit received, even as we also?
Act
11:15-16 And in my
beginning to speak, the Holy Spirit fell on them, as also on us in the
beginning. And I recalled the Word of the
Lord, how He said, John indeed baptized with water, but you shall be baptized
in the Holy Spirit.
This
was the first instance of the gospel being preached to Gentiles. I think it is
significant that directly before this incidence Peter had a vision of previously
forbidden food (animals) coming down from heaven. He was commanded to slay and
eat them. The Lord told him to not to call something common or unclean that He
has made clean. This was a sign that those who were previously not outwardly
called to salvation (the Gentiles) would now be called clean (to partake of the
gospel). By them receiving the Holy Spirit in such an outward manner, this was
clear evidence to Peter that the Holy Spirit had received the Gentiles – they
were now considered clean. This is also what I would consider an instance where
you cannot “put God in a box” and say that water baptism has to happen for a
person to receive the Holy Spirit.
It
is interesting to note that even though the Holy Spirit had “received” these
believers, that they still had to be baptized in water. Baptism is a ceremony in
which there is an outward depiction of the old person and their sin dying and
being buried, followed by the new cleansed person being raised from the dead to
walk in newness of life (Rom 6:4-5). I believe that it is an outward expression
that serves as a specific point in time that a person makes a decision to
publicly repent, confess, and believe on Jesus Christ as savior and Lord.
As 1Pe 3:21 says, it is the answer of a good conscience towards God. It
seems to serve as a “right of passage”.
This is an “in-house” debate within Christian circles.
The Christians that don’t believe that the outwardly expressive gifts such as
tongues and prophecy are for today often quote 1Co13:8-9, saying that “the
perfect thing” refers to the New Testament Canon. Lets look at the scripture
in context.
1Co
13:8-13 Love never
fails. But if there are prophecies, they
will be caused to cease; if tongues, they shall cease; if knowledge, it will be
caused to cease. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part; but when the
perfect thing comes, then that which is
in part will be caused to cease. When I was an infant, I spoke as an infant, I
thought as an infant, I reasoned as an infant. But when I became a man, I caused
to cease the things of the infant. For now we see through a mirror in dimness,
but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I will fully know even as I
also was fully known. And now faith, hope, and love, these three things remain;
but the greatest of these is love.
It seems to me that the context demands that the “perfect
thing” refers to the coming of Christ. Only then will we grow into full
maturity and fully know even as we have always been fully known.
I suspect that there are three main reasons for the
controversy:
- Outwardly
expressive gifts do not seem to occur commonly among Christians today –
even among devout believers.
- There
is much abuse of this practice whereby people do things such as:
working themselves up into a frenzy, fake a spiritual tongue, or try to
“teach” others the gift of tongues.
- If
some have the gift and some don’t, then there is often a “haves” and
“haves not” mentality that is created (even though 1Cor 12 explicitly
directs to not have that type of mindset).
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